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AGENDA
STATE ACTIVITIES
POLICY COMMITTEE
September 28, 1984
10:00 a.m.
A. Legislative Update: State and Local
B. 1985 Legislative Projections
C. Special Reports
o Tax sunset plans
o Tax study commissions
o Public Relations Division report
D. Administration
o Budget

The State Activities Policy Committee of The Tobacco Institute met
in the offices of The Tobacco Institute in Washington, on
September 28, 1984.
Mr. Stanley S. Scott, Chairman of the Committee, presided.
Attending were W~.E. Ainsworth, Jr., Esquire of R.J. Reynolds,
James R. Cherry, Esquire of Lorillard, Mr. Donald E. Mott of
Liggett & Myers, Mr. Guy L. Smith, IV of Philip Morris, and Ernest
Pepples, Esquire and'J. Kend'rick Wells, 111, Esquire of Brown &
Williamson. Attending for The Tobacco Institute were Mr. Samuel D.
Chilcote, Jr., President, Mr. Roger L. Mozingo, Senior Vice
President - State Activities, Mr. William Cannell, Director ot
Administrative Services, Mr. Michael J. Kerrigan, Mr. M. Hurst
Marshall, Vice President - State Activities, and Mr. William
Kloepfer - Senior Vice President, Public Relations.
Stanley L. T'emko, Esquire of Covington & Burling, and Martin Haley
of The Martin Haley Companies, were also present.
(Mr. William A. O'Flaherty was excused from the meeting to attend
the annual Burley and Dark Leaf Tobacco Export Association meeting
which was occurring simultaneously.)
The Committee was in session from 10:00 a.m. until 2:00 p.m.
A vote of thanks and appreciation was unanimously accorded Mr.
Michael Kerrigan whose resignation from The Tobacco Institute was
announced; he is now President of the Smokeless Tobacco Council,
Inc.
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LEGISLATIVE UPDATE
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. All tax issues being given highest priority including
assistance to sustain the sunset.
. Possible adverse consequences in the states resulting from
anticipation of the federal 8~ sunset.
Mr. Scott called for action to start now, utilizing company
resources, suggesting a task force to deal with the state
situation.
Following a comprehensive description from Mr. Chilcote of the
federal need for state personnel help and a review of the federal
tax situation, discussion ensued:
. NCSL resolution asking Congress for an increase in the
tobacco tax was withdrawn (Mr. Scott).
. State tax plans should be reviewed for relevance
(Mr. Chilcote).
. National coalition and econometric studies possibilities
(Mr. Scott).
Companies will be requested for resource inventories
(Mr. Mozingo).
The assignment to produce plans for resource coordination will be
left with Mr. Mozingo (Mr. Scott).
The recently enacted tax increase bill in Maine inadvertently
omitted'making it contingent on the federal sunset, Mr. Kerrigan
reported. The state legislature is to correct this oversight in a
session beginning on December 5 either by a separate bill or
amendment, or both (Mr. Haley).

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The Minnesota Plan for Nonsmoking and Health and the Texas Task
Force on Cancer reports have both been issued; legislative
proposals will be developed from these studies. Similar reports
may be done in other states (lri'r. Mozingo).
Mr. Ainsworth, asked for comment by Mr. Scott, pointed out that
the age 21 feature poses obviously serious problems to the
beverage industry; the age 21 question regarding tobacco, included
in the Texas Task Force report, has been referred to the Committee
of Counsel.
The New Jersey surtax issue was described by Mr. Kerrigan: an
unsatisfactory situation, an alternative bill present, Governor
Kean's position is a question mark; discussions with member
companies and distributors are continuing.
The possibility of changing Hawaii's ad'valorem tax, after review
in detail, is not encouraging, Mr. Mozingo reported. The etfort
was made but the opportunity is not present (Mr. Scott).
Mr. Kerrigan reviewed the Michigan tax rollback initiative on the
November ballot and recommended that the industry not get involved
in the issue.
SMOKING RESTRICTIONS
Erie County, Pennsylvania and Fort Collins, Colorado will both be
on the ballot (1,,Ir. Mozingo); Erie is a non-binding advisory
question which may have impact on the ordinance currently being
considered by the county legislature. A survey similar to the one
in Los Angeles is underway; fit subject for a public relations
program (Mr. Kerrigan).

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The possibility of a model ordinance, being aggressive in our
opposition and conditioning the legislative environment were also
reviewed during the Erie County discussion.
Fort Collins, although different, might benefit from the same
discussion (Mr. Marshall). A document was distributed' describing
two optional programs; Mr. Pepples requested the staff recommen-
d'ation. Mr. Mozingo declared for the second option to work
through coalitions, and~ to make some limited contribution to the
campaign.
The industry should draw the line and fight, Mr. Smith
emphasized. Other observations and'comments followed': the
desirability of opposing in other than direct ways (Mr.
Ainsworth); taking a chance on an almost sure loser (Mr. Cherry);
the inadvisability of loss by default (Mr. Mott); the desirability
of avoiding the contest entirely (Mr. Pepples); and the effect on
other communities, expertise of local campaign leaders, regional
press effect, and the need to show strength provide more pluses
than minuses (Mr. Chilcote).
Mr. Scott summarized:
Even through a loss, we win by trying.
. We develop strength with wholesalers.
Alternative means of supporting the campaign require
further consideration and decision.
Discussion of the summary points by Messrs. Pepples, Scott,
Chilcote and Marshall developed'several alternatives to be
discussed'~ in a conference call on Monday at 3:00 p.m.

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FURTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT ERIE
An indirect positioning of the issue, no visible industry role,
and conduct of a public relations campaign to point out frivolity
were outlined by Mr. Mozingo.
Mr. Smith suggested that we must get involved and give a strong
signal to the legislators in Erie County. Mr. Sparber discussed
the potential for participation in the campaign by labor.
Mr. Scott, speaking for the Committee, said to proceed with a
public relations campaign.
CALIFORNIA
(Editorial comment: At the time of this meeting, the vote on the
Los Angeles ordinance had~not been taken.) The consultants were
continuing their efforts, and the future was difficult to predict
based on information from California. Also discussed was the
development of a legislative proposal by the California Tobacco
Education~Council to replace their now-eliminated initiative
proposal for a 1/2~ per pack tax increase.
SAMPLING BANS
A possible amendment to the Boston sampling ban and the political
background of the Boston action were described by Mr. Mozingo.
Messrs. Wells, Mozingo and Kerrigan discussed the possibility of a
local preemption amendment to the commercial code in some states,
developed by selectively chosen standard-bearers; Mr. Wells
recommended considering outdoor advertising groups, to check with
them, and that counsel should review the concept as it would apply
in each state.

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TAXES ON SAIMQ'LE PACKS
Mr. Mozingo suggested that the industry attempt to change the tax
rate on sample packs to a per-stick rate in states where that is
not now the case. This concept was supported by Messrs. Pepples
and Ainsworth. Possible wholesaler association disagreement was
mentioned. Mr. Scott summarized by requesting the question be
probed and a report be returned.
ADMINISTRATION AND SUPPORT
The five regional lobbyists' meetings, with their focus on local
planning and active participation by the lobbyists were described
(Mr. Mozingo).
The Committee discussed the strategy in the "sunset states" and
the importance of tax study commissions.
riozingo);
The background of Division budgeting was reviewed (Mr;
comfort with the figures but need for assurance of personnel
quality were pointed out (Mr. Scott); examples of improving
quality while making replacements and of staf.f deployment were-
given (Mr. Mozingo). Discussions followed on the efficacy of
local political campaign contributions (Mr. Pepples) and financial
assistance to distributor associations for their legislative
support.
THE PUBLIC RELATIONS DIVISION
Mr. Sparber reported:
. Assigned proj;ects are all under way.

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. The workplace problem could open relationships with
Affirmative Action officers and law enforcement groups.
. A supporting economist (Dr. Eva Baker) has been
identified.
The Chairman asked if one-on-one interviews were being conducted
at headquarters of major corporations; Mr. Kloepfer replied
affirmatively and stated that the contacts were originating from
TI to the Fortune 500 companies. Twenty-eight of the Fortune 100
are considering smoking restriction regulations (Mr. Sparber).
All Fortune 500 companies, position known or not known, should be
surveyed, Mr. Scott said.
The first proposed supporting advertisement was distributed; Mr.
Pepples emphasized the importance of the workplace issue and
underscored the need for personal contact with companies at the
local level by the lobbyists.
The recent Japanese study was discussed (Mr. Chilcote); there had
been no advanced warning of the article's appearance (Mr. Scott).
The importance of scientific analysis and scientific witnesses
being available was emphasized by Messrs. Chilcote and Kloepfer.
Following discussion of several specific budget items, the
recommended 1985 budget was approved.
As Chairman, Mr. Scott reaffirmed the schedule of the next meeting
at 10:00 a.m. at The Tobacco Institute offices on November 16,
1984. CZ
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